Seriously, this is not funny:
batson April 28, 2009 2:50PM CST
Lucille, I think the message is, if they lied about this what else has been distorted to create this version of “history”. There is enough “overwhelming evidence” to dispute what you allege. You can look at either side of the issue and make a case. The hysteria created by the victors after WWII to justify their retribution against Germans (remember the phony human skin lamp shades, the death camps in Germany, and other gross distortions of truth) was attributed to the winners. The winners of the war get to write history. Sometimes it takes generations before the truth comes to the surface.
taxpayer April 28, 2009 3:01PM CST
Lucille, you are twisting my words and I resent the insinuation you are making. I did NOT ask “what is the difference between 4 million Jews and 1.5 million Jews” My question is why the Jews propagated this distortion for decades. Your attempt to twist the intent of my observation is typical of the response one gets when a logical question is posed. Answering me with the usual hyterical accusations is not a response. And it is NOT ludicrous to assert that a huge distortion of fact has been demonstrated; no where did I state that the slaughter of Jews did not take place during WWII. Again, I resent you distorting my facts. Jews were slaughtered in WWII, innocent Germans were slaughtered in WWII, the Chinese suffered equally at the hands of the Japanese. Suffering during wartime is not the exclusive province of the Jew.
Lucille April 28, 2009 3:37PM CST
Casualties of war, and the systematic imprisonment and murder of an entire class of people are two different things. With respect to the “hugeness” of the distortion, the focus on the absoute number is misplaced. If it was 1,000 people or 10,000 people or 10,000,000 people, what does it matter? Millions of human being were incarcerated in their own homelands because they were Jewish and then they were murdered. Nobody doubts that this also happened to other classes of people. Gypsies, communists, homo-sexuals, and others were also the victims of Nazi atrocities. The evil perpetrated on those people does not diminish the evil perpetrated upon the Jews. Government sponsored genocide is an abomination and evil that should be castigated by every human being. Those that would contest that this occurred, or try to diminish the enormity of the evil, by pointing out inconsistencies in the record, feed the perverse mania of Anti-Semites and other hate-mongers. If you doubt this, just take a look at baston’s last post wherein this person refers to death camps as a “gross distortion of the truth”.
taxpayer April 28, 2009 3:44PM CST
Lucille-Once again you attempt to distort the truth and twist what was said by another. If you read CLOSELY Batson said that the existence of “death camps” in Germany was a lie. It was a lie. There were NO “death” camps in Germany. This is a historical fact and no attempts by you to manipulate the truth will change that. Is it any wonder that people have legitimate doubts about this whole episode.
usernametaken April 28, 2009 3:53PM CST
There is huge amounts of evidence to suggest there was not systematic gassing of any group of people. Most people who jump on that notion are too stupid to talk to.
There were concentration camps and there was a lot of deaths but it was from starvation and disease, not gassing. Hardly unique in human history but it’s now actually celebrated as a secular religion.
The ‘holocaust’ was the genesis of ‘white guilt’ and the era of aquisition via victimization.
The state of israel was created with the money and technology extorted from Germany after the war.
Most people don’t even know that it’s a crime to deny or even investigate the ‘holocaust’. That just about says it all right there.
Lucille April 28, 2009 4:06PM CST
Thank you for making my point. Now you want to argue about political geography. If the camps were built in German occupied territory, and they were built under the auspices of the German government, I think that would qualify them as German death camps. Please also comment on the drivel posted by usernametaken, I think that will be equally entertaining.
usernametaken April 28, 2009 4:15PM CST
Lucille – just another simpleton who doesn’t know anything about the situation other than schindler’s list.
How much wood would it take to cremate 6.5 million bodies, where are the remains buried, why can’t those areas be investigated, there should be millions of teeth there, why do census records of western europe dispute the disappearance of a number equal to the greater Houston metropolitan area, all wood, concrete, mortar and dirt would have massive levels of testable cyanide that could prove it once and for all… nope, that’s illegal to investigate.
That is not even the tip of the iceberg of massive inconsistencies surrounding the ‘holocaust’.
A reasonable estimate of jews killed under Hitler is between 150-350k. Less than all American boys killed during WW2.
taxpayer April 28, 2009 4:24PM CST
The point, Lucille, was that there are so many inconsistencies and outright lies about the holocaust a cloud of suspicion decends over the whole story. German death camps….for decades we were told the camps in Germany exterminated Jews. The truth is that there never were any death camps in Germany. This was the point being made. The lies associateed with the story of the holocaust. And regards the “drivel” posted by Usernamtaken-he is 100% correct in every statement that he made. But, rather than counter the argument and attempt to present facts, you resort to name calling and casting aspersions. Typical response. What a tangled web we weave when first we practisde to deceive. You now are reduced to telling lie after lie to cover up your previous lies.
jjwp April 28, 2009 4:31PM CST
“Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the track of history some bast**d will get up and say that this never happened.”
-Dwight Eisenhower at a concentration camp near Gotha
usernametaken April 28, 2009 4:45PM CST Nobody is denying concentration camps champ.
As Elie Wiesel has said, there is no point in having a discussion with the mentally ill.