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	<title>Comments on: SIU Carbondale Student Newspaper Pulls Comments</title>
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		<title>By: lana</title>
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		<description>You make some really good points, and to make matters worse, they have done themselves a lot of damage by allowing it to continue--attracting people who enjoy this sort of thing and driving away people who don&#039;t. If they were to ever get a sensible moderation policy in place, they&#039;d be starting from a hole; they have to re-train their readers in acceptability standards. 

I used to moderate a fairly large discussion site and the level of discourse was kept pretty high simply because of the high quality of what already existed. We had a couple of persistent trolls and the absolutely most effective thing we did to them was a little coding trick where they would see their own replies within a thread, but nobody else could. Why the PD does not at least ban usernames is beyond me; the more persistent will register another username (and you can often combat this with IP bans) but it will get rid of a large percentage of the bozos. 

A change in architecture would also go a long way--at the end of each story, a user should be able to click once to see all comments. (This paging through to read comments, three to five at a time, is nonsense from every perspective; you either want to read comments or you don&#039;t.) That way if you&#039;re not interested in the discussion, you aren&#039;t confronted with it, especially with the moderation after the fact as the PD has it. 

I really love reading the comments on the stories that deal with history; the articles about the Admiral or the Arena or whatever. Sharing memories and information is a tremendous use of the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some really good points, and to make matters worse, they have done themselves a lot of damage by allowing it to continue&#8211;attracting people who enjoy this sort of thing and driving away people who don&#8217;t. If they were to ever get a sensible moderation policy in place, they&#8217;d be starting from a hole; they have to re-train their readers in acceptability standards. </p>
<p>I used to moderate a fairly large discussion site and the level of discourse was kept pretty high simply because of the high quality of what already existed. We had a couple of persistent trolls and the absolutely most effective thing we did to them was a little coding trick where they would see their own replies within a thread, but nobody else could. Why the PD does not at least ban usernames is beyond me; the more persistent will register another username (and you can often combat this with IP bans) but it will get rid of a large percentage of the bozos. </p>
<p>A change in architecture would also go a long way&#8211;at the end of each story, a user should be able to click once to see all comments. (This paging through to read comments, three to five at a time, is nonsense from every perspective; you either want to read comments or you don&#8217;t.) That way if you&#8217;re not interested in the discussion, you aren&#8217;t confronted with it, especially with the moderation after the fact as the PD has it. </p>
<p>I really love reading the comments on the stories that deal with history; the articles about the Admiral or the Arena or whatever. Sharing memories and information is a tremendous use of the technology.</p>
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