poindex21 May 20, 2009 11:40AM CST
Someone mentioned “black leadership” ?? Which bling bling jive-### rap artist are we talking about here ?
northside rules May 19, 2009 8:29AM CST
Hold on…African Americans can not help it…its not their fault! Consider the circumstances.Most are decendants of slaves who were brought here against their will…straight out of the African jungle…sold into slavery by very mean and vicious people…to very mean and vicious people. These were the meek who were captured and brutalized by the strong.When they got to the US they were forced into slavery…which under the best circumstances was awful.Many were beaten and tortured…raped…forced to do unspeakable things. They were forced to bear children by the meanest of the mean slave owners.This blood still pumps through their veins. Throw in years of legal discrimination and then government programs designed to destroy family units…and then completely destroy the neighborhood schools…what do you end up with? Killers!!!If this happened to Carcausian or Serbian or Asian people the same thing would happen. Try to understand that these kids can’t help it…they are just following their DNA. Can somebody come up with a solution? I don’t have much hope for the near future…but down the road can we at least get the schools back (my personal best idea) to schooling?…It’s gonna be tough…if you haev some real answers lets hear them…
Hmmmmmmmmmmm May 19, 2009 8:34AM CST
Must of run out of friiiiiied chicken and watermelon!
The Riverfront Times joins in the fun with a post on the stories and comments following the apparent suicide of IE Millstone
Am I the only one who finds the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s online comments threads endlessly entertaining, mystifying and downright unfathomable? Am I the only one who, when I’m of a mind to plumb the deepest recesses of the human soul, pulls up the ol’ web browser and types in s-t-l-t-o-d-a-y-d-o-t-c-o-m?
Definitely not. Though I needed a few days away after overload set in from reading the garbage that shows up there.
You’ve got your skeptical “He was 102 and got from where to the Daniel Boone Bridge? … It seems a little strange to think the two things are related without there being something being slightly ‘off’….”
And your brass tacks “God bless him, quite a man to jump off a bridge @ 102,” and “he was a very lucid gentleman even at 102. So, if it was him, it was not due to dementia.”
And, of course, your cynical “Clearly the husband did it.”
But this being stltoday.com, things are gonna get curiouser. Ergo:
“Why should God ‘bless’ him? Isn’t suicide a Commandment Violation? On the otherhand, maybe the suicider asked for ‘forgiveness and absolution’ just before losing consciousness, declaring ‘Jesus is my Savior’ thus securing life ever after in Heaven.”
And lest Final Exit be left out, an afterthought from the same commenter: “…Maybe, just maybe, people like Millstone wouldn’t have to jump off bridges if painless and private assisted suicide were legal (and responsibly regulated)? “
Why is it appropriate to allow such commentary on the death of any human being? It’s fine if the sentiment is out there–, but why would anyone give it a venue?
Freedom Fighter May 18, 2009 10:12AM CST
A few of the posters here had it exactly right. Anytime you get this many urban blacks together there will in fact be a shooting. This happens because of the disproportionate number of criminals and illegal firearms. It happens every year. Its all part of the culture. WHY does this happen every year? Because the parents, (usually consisting of a Mom who sometimes has too many kids to monitor correctly, and who may be working one or two jobs and the fathers who statistically arent there in many cases) accept it as part of the culture. By that I mean they know who the drug dealers, gang bangers, drive byers, car jackers and burglers are but because they are their sons, nephews, brothers and neighbors they turn a blind eye and will even lie to the po-lice to defend them. Until these people as a group decide to stop living like this absolutely nothing will change.
Let’s throw in today’s too:
jenniferlelove May 19, 2009 10:21AM CST
They already have Martin Luther King Day….really? We need another day to celebrate the color of ones skin? So, when’s the spray tan orange-skin day? I doubt anyone will get slaughtered there.
kingoftruth May 15, 2009 8:37AM CST
RIP. sad. and the over/under on the # of posts before the 1st racially incensitive post is 5.
boredatwork May 15, 2009 8:41AM CST
Second shooting this week that involved fast food. Blacks Fast food = crimeHey, let’s sue fast food chains!
The under wins.
cricket May 8, 2009 11:58AM CST
batson May 8, 2009 11:14AM CST
quizzleQ May 8, 2009 10:42AM CST
First, credit to Greenbaum and his team. They are making an effort to clean up the comments–yesterday there were no clear examples of racism that I saw that stayed up and the same with a couple threads on today that were likely to explode. But here’s the problem:
Jom May 8, 2009 5:45AM CST
Luster should be thanking you for mentioning his HIV health problem. The Queens in whatever prison he’s sent to won’t be so quick to use and abuse him. Of course, there’s always the chance that might disappoint him, too…
I know there is a double standard about rape in prison and ‘regular’ rape in terms of jokes being acceptable, but there shouldn’t be.
City Resident May 7, 2009 8:11AM CST
I’m curious as to why the P.D. keeps taking down posts that allege the congressman’s illegal drug use and serial womanizing? These have been posted by numerous individuals and are issues widely known in political circles. You allow post after post accusing the guy in Columbia, IL. of murdering his wife with absolutely no substantiation whatsoever, but allegations against the congressman are taken down immediately, even when there is substantial evidence of the truthfullness of those posts. Why the double standard?
This goes to the larger point of how irresponsible much of the commenting is. There are ways to improve it, but letting people suggest conspiracies by Joyce Meyer or unsubstantiated claims about the father are just as offensive as the rumors about Lacy Clay. None of this would be allowed in a letter to the editor–why is it allowed in comments?
drumming umpire May 6, 2009 4:11PM CST
I’m suprised he did file for divorce too. Isn’t it african-american tradition just for the males to pick up and leave whenever it suits them? Also, he only “works” 4 days a week? And he’s paid $180,000 a year for a 4 day work week? Plus, at least that amount annually in pension for the rest of his life? I think we need to take back our government.
The Republican Speaker of the House Ron Richerds (R-Joplin)
From a House news release:
“We are now one crucial step closer to restoring funding for Metro,” said Speaker of the House, Ron Richard. “With the possibility of many of the closed routes re-opening, we can look forward to rebuilding our state’s workforce and improving public safety.”
It continued:
Richard finished by saying, “We are hopeful that the Governor will take a stand on this issue and urge our friends in the Senate to follow our lead and pass House Bill 22 so that we can begin the road to economic recovery and improve the lives of hard-working Missouri citizens.” he added.
As Tony Messenger pointed out in his post, Nixon has been missing on the issue. Metro has its problems and Richards was right to not automatically just throw money at them, but the current situation is more than about Metro–it’s about people being able to get to work and a functioning transit system in an incredibly and increasingly decentralized metropolitan area.
I often criticized Nixon for his game of playing the city against the rest of the state, but I had hoped that Nixon had grown out of that. It’s clear he hasn’t. Metro is essential to a healthy metro area and while it certainly needs to continue to improve its performance, it’s far better than it was 10 years ago. The larger issue of capital costs and controlling them is different from daily operations which are fairly decent now. Richard sees all of this, why can’t the Democratic Governor?
Fine moments in civic discussion:
Congressman Clays actions should not surprise anyone he is a black democrat. His concern is for himself and the power that his position provides.
The real surprise is that he married this woman at all. The second surprise is that he stayed “married” as long as he has.
I imagine he jus be laid up in the bed in sum bi–hs crib 4 da weekend.
— danj
7:21 am May 6th, 2009
Two quotes from comments today to illustrate the basic problem:
stlbang May 6, 2009 6:29AM CST
Cheap way to treat your family, maybe now Clay’s hidden drug use will finally come out and he will find that he’s not the big man he thinks he is
Conspiracy theories about Joyce Meyer and her organization:
yojoedoe May 6, 2009 5:37AM CST
At this point without smoking gun eyewitness(es) I worry that in the end Joyce Meyer megamoney could manipulatively buy freedom for the perpetrator(s) who would have a stacked deck of judicial rights while these 3 young people had their’s incomprehensively murdered away. THATS where public outrage should go focused next to prevent IF any suspects arrested are connected to Joyce Meyer ministries.
glock27 May 6, 2009 5:53AM CST
Joyce Meyers run a cult type so called reigious group were a big portion of your money goes to her and her family. The PD did a report several years ago on Joyce Meyers. They drive Mercedes and live in expensive homes all paid for by the cult. There could be any number of reasons for this terrible crime.
glock27 May 6, 2009 5:58AM CST
My first thoughts would be…that someone in this family knew something about Joyce Meyers cult and was killed to hush them up or to send a message.
These are not isolated incidents.
Keith May 4, 2009 6:34AM CST
What a enchanting story! It makes me fell all warm and fuzzy to see another family, complete with grandma, moving into public housing? Movin’ on up baby!
Of course, most of the day appears to have been spent on people introducing rumors about the mother and two children killed in Illinois and Lacy Clay.
Why does a newspaper allow people to speculate about murders? It’s a really bizarre situation where people are spreading rumors about a man with no evidence in the Illinois case and yet there are multiple accusations and speculative claims about what must have happened.
What is the purpose of that even? It’s certainly libelous and worse, hurtful. It serves no purpose.
In the case of Clay, there are multiple claims about what Lacy has done, but other than his wife’s letter no support for it. Why is the speculation about his fidelity legitimate? The same sort of nonsense was taking place with rumors about Matt Blunt and the content of the e-mails and I believe the P-D did a fairly good job of stopping those as they should.
It may well be that Lacy Clay was cheating on his wife, but random anonymous comments in stories shouldn’t be where that is introduced.
Teh Gay shouldn’t hold office:
Did the Missouri voters know Justus was a queer when they elected her(or him)? Oh, I just noticed she is from KCMo. Those people just don’t know any better. She (or he) should be voted out at the next election.
— mo ky fellow
7:43 pm May 4th, 2009
Because, of course, playing funny gender confusion games is great discussion.
Because all Mexicans are illegal:
the_Kemist May 3, 2009 7:45PM CST
Too bad ICE didn’t do a sweep there yesterday, it would probably have been quite productive…
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